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Post by radioflyer on Jul 10, 2009 13:33:31 GMT -5
Boys! Boys! Let's quite the jibbing about beer! Get back to the serious business of this post on the subject of f@rting in full waders! C'mon!!!
rf
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Post by flyfishingpastor on Jul 10, 2009 14:26:56 GMT -5
Radio;
I stand corrected!
Pat
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Post by trent on Jul 10, 2009 15:11:27 GMT -5
Okay, your regularly scheduled programming may now resume.
Let's ask you Mr. Wizards this one - if one were to expel methanous waste in ones waders, would the second cranial nerve detect said emittence sooner with rising or dropping barometric pressure.
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Post by reelteacher on Jul 12, 2009 23:41:28 GMT -5
Here goes... Methane gas is composed of one carbon atom and 4 hydrogen atoms linked together by single bonds. This molecule has an atomic weight of about 16. The atmosphere is composed of 21% Oxygen gas, which has 2 oxygen atoms linked together and 78% Nitrogen gas, which has 2 nitrogen atoms linked together. The other 1% is mostly argon and water vapor and all other nasty chemicals like carbon dioxide, methane, etc. Nitrogen gas has an atomic weight of 28, and Oxygen gas has an atomic weight of 32. Thus, methane weighs about half as much as the majority of the gases in the atmosphere and the rate at which it rises, is not affected significantly by atmospheric pressure. Although, I believe a rising barometer would cause the methane to rise very slightly slower due to the increased density of the nitrogen and oxygen molecules. But, I could be wrong.
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Post by radioflyer on Jul 13, 2009 7:02:21 GMT -5
Teach, Thanks for the clarification ( ). My wife did bring up a good idea yesterday as we discussed this most important live/death topic. She asked if wearing a wading belt would alter the outcome. Why...yes of course! The posterior portion of your waders would indeed expand as the vapors are trapped by the belt, pulling you upwards out of the water backside first unless you lean back and change the floatation area of the waders beneath the wading belt. In that case, you could float belly up and thus save your life in the event you fall over in the river...important safety tip to remember. Pass that one along. So in the future...should any of you see me merrily floating down the tippy with my waders on just singing a song and enjoying the day, you can surmise that indeed I had cooked cabbage for dinner the night before. Elementary my dear Watson...elementary! rf
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Post by trent on Jul 13, 2009 13:57:31 GMT -5
Okay Dustin, Mr. Smarty Pants, how about if you were fishing at absolute zero in a vacuum during a solar eclipse while the tide was out and immediately following The Rapture.
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Post by radioflyer on Jul 13, 2009 14:19:56 GMT -5
...that actually happened to me once...
rf
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Post by reelteacher on Jul 13, 2009 16:43:05 GMT -5
I was about to say it's a trick question, but apparently not... Sorry about your luck Radio. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
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Post by radioflyer on Jul 13, 2009 17:43:05 GMT -5
No! I'm serious! I was steelheading up on Lake Michigan off the US Steel peer at about 4am on the coldest day I can ever remember...throwing fluorescent Acme spoons with a casting rod. Absolute zero? Yes! A vacuum? Felt like it...was hard to breathe. Full solar eclipse? Yup! Pretty darned dark! After the Rapture? Why, there was NOone else around but me! Not even fish! ... so I guess they were were taken up too!
anywhom...there you go. So now Teach, Mr. Smarty Pants...it's YOUR turn! ...what's the answer?
...and no comments from the peanut gallery about my being stupid enough to go fishing at times like that! That speaks for itself!
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Post by reelteacher on Jul 16, 2009 22:02:02 GMT -5
Absolute zero is the temperature at which all of the atoms and molecules stop moving. This has been calculated as 0 Kelvin or -273 degrees Celcius, or -459.4 degrees Fahrenheit. Absolute zero is only a theoretical temperature as the complete lack of thermal energy in a laboratory on earth has proved extremely difficult to produce. If all of the molecules or atoms stopped moving, then the substance could only be in a solid state. Even the methane expelled from ones backside would turn into the inevitable fartcicle. But, in a vacuum, which is a complete lack of any atmospheric pressure, the methane molecules would not be able to coalesce. The molecules would be static and invisible. In the light of all of this, the solar eclipse and the rapture, although science books and the bible play them up to be very powerful acts of nature or God, would have no bearing whatsoever on the outcome of the aforementioned experiment.
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Post by flyfishingpastor on Jul 16, 2009 22:22:30 GMT -5
Are we sure we WANT really smart guys like Dustin on this board? It makes the rest of us look really bad! Pat P.S. And, Radio, I dispute your Rapture theory. It was clearly a false Rapture. As far as I know, there has never been a "practice" Rapture event in all of human history. I would be quite disappointed in God if He called for the Rapture and missed me - how lame would that be? The ultimate cosmic joke? So, what if, instead of spreading rumors of the Rapture (that missed me), we just thought a bit about the time and temperature you were fishing and concluded that all the smart people (everyone else on the planet) were snuggled safe and warm while other people (you) were freezing portions of their anatomy off (since you can't freeze portions ON).
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Post by trent on Jul 17, 2009 8:44:43 GMT -5
In the words of Dave Barry, Practice Rapture would be a cool name for a rock band. So would Fartcicle.
I'm wondering if a person were in a non vacuum scenario that was cold enough to produce a fartcicle and then introduced it into a vaccum scenario, do we think a fartcicle flying through space would be able to induce bodily harm, possibly even death?
And Pat, yes we need the smarties on board...it raises the collective average intelligence and we need every bit of help we can get.
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Post by reelteacher on Jul 17, 2009 17:38:10 GMT -5
O.K. I'll stop being a complete nerd. 10 years of teaching science has a way of providing someone with all kinds of fun facts that the general population may not be aware of or even care to know... However I don't claim to be any smarter than anyone else, I just have a small amount of knowledge in a different area. Trent, if the fartcicle had enough mass and was travelling fast enough, it would definitely be able to induce harm or even death. In the vacuum of space, objects can travel at almost incomprehensible speeds due to the fact that there is no loss of energy due to air resistance. The space shuttle, for example, has an orbital speed around the Earth of a little over 17,000mph. Once the shuttle reaches this orbital speed, its inertia and the force of the Earth's gravitational pull cancel each other out, and the shuttle maintains itself at a range of about 185 miles above the surface. AMAZING! BTW... I have no idea how this relates to swamped waders.
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Post by radioflyer on Jul 17, 2009 19:28:35 GMT -5
...except Teach, that the speed and inertia of the methane bubbles below the wading belt meet the weight of the water above the bubbles thus suspending them in the small of your back. And they're warm! You've felt those in the hottube before of course. Anywhom, That's a whatta I'ma talkin' about!
rf
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