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Post by trent on Feb 10, 2009 10:09:30 GMT -5
Just throwing this out there...
With all the various step by step fly tying instructions that are popping up, I was thinking the club could put a book together. The groundwork is already done with the step by step pics and the commentary. Someone who is good with one of the publishing softwares could compile, print on decent paper, bind them with a spiral binder and you've got something you could sell at the Expos, to other clubs, or maybe even at places like the Warehouse, FlyMaster's, etc.
Any thoughts? It sounds easy enough, but I'm sure would involve a decent amount of leg work.
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Post by Tippecanoe Fly Fishers Admin on Feb 10, 2009 11:11:38 GMT -5
One easier way might be this. After these instructions have been on the free portion of the boards for a month, they could easily be moved into the members area.
This will add value to the club membership and might get people to pay them .
However this is just my thought.
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Post by trent on Feb 10, 2009 12:23:45 GMT -5
I was not thinking of it as a way to get people to pay membership dues, but rather as possibly a special fundraiser with proceeds going to stream conservation or Casting for Recovery or something like that.
I would also argue that if someone who is not a club member posts in the public access area, those posts should not then be moved into a password protected area.
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Post by Tippecanoe Fly Fishers Admin on Feb 10, 2009 13:06:30 GMT -5
I would also argue that if someone who is not a club member posts in the public access area, those posts should not then be moved into a password protected area. I agree with you there. |
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Post by reelteacher on Feb 10, 2009 16:10:45 GMT -5
We are currently trying to do something like this with access sites to rivers and streams around Tippecanoe Co. I've gotten bogged down and this is stalled at the moment, but I have a good list of sites and fishing locations all ready for the Tippecanoe river. Just need to get them published and bound somewhere. I may need help with that. I have no problem with using my flies and instructions for this also. I think it would be a great way to give back to these fine grass roots organizations. I too, like the idea of putting the oldies in the members only section, and that would at least give new people incentive to join the club, so they have access to this information. But ultimately, that should be a club decision.
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Post by flyfishingpastor on Feb 11, 2009 9:08:10 GMT -5
I think this idea has potential, and I think its a great idea, but I guess I'd have to ask if fly recipes have intellectual property rights and there is an implied/real copyright protection? I mean, most of us learn to tie on something like a Wooly Bugger (for instance) but if we publish a WB recipe is someone going to come knocking demanding payment for copyright infringement?
Just something to think about...
Pat
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Post by Tippecanoe Fly Fishers Admin on Feb 11, 2009 10:50:47 GMT -5
I think this idea has potential, and I think its a great idea, but I guess I'd have to ask if fly recipes have intellectual property rights and there is an implied/real copyright protection? I mean, most of us learn to tie on something like a Wooly Bugger (for instance) but if we publish a WB recipe is someone going to come knocking demanding payment for copyright infringement? Just something to think about... Pat Pat's thoughts crossed my mind as well. Having done some larger publishing projects, I know that the expenses and time can mount up. I hate to be the guy that kills ideas, but I also want people to be aware what is envolved with a project like this. To be honest it is a subject that would be best discussed in person, because there are many details that we would have to figure out before starting this project. |
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Post by trent on Feb 11, 2009 13:10:13 GMT -5
Don't have a clue about fly recipes and copyrights, etc. I know photos are considered copyrighted, so we would have to have permission from the owners to use them and I believe give them a credit. We might be able to check with other clubs that might have done something similar to see if they have more info.
Les, has your experience been that these projects have become less intensive with better publishing software and technology?
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Post by Tippecanoe Fly Fishers Admin on Feb 11, 2009 15:30:32 GMT -5
Les, has your experience been that these projects have become less intensive with better publishing software and technology? Nope. I have been using the industry standard technology for over 10 years now and it is just a long process. And it all really depends on how you want it to look. Being a graphic designer I like to have things look professional and be of high quality. Now what does that mean? For starters all copy or text for the entire book needs to be proof read. I know my faults and spelling is one of them. Ask Krebs how many times we sent the brouchure back and forth. Next all the images haves to be edited so they are ready for print. Your monitor is 72 Dots per inch (DPI) Print at the minimum is 150 DPI. This means you just can't take the images off the web and put them in a document and have it look good. With that all the images have to be in foucus and that they follow the instructions and you don't have an end user scratching his head going how did they get from step 3 to 4. I think we do a good job on the steps and the pictures for the most part. I know that my pictures would need reshot to get my messy desk out of the back ground. Then you have to figure out how the entire book is going to be layed out. Do you want the flies in alpabetical order? By Species? Wet? Dry? I think you get where I am going with this. Then what type of paper do you want to use? What type of binding. Then it comes to the cost of getting it printed and bound. I am sure that I forgot something. But i just want to lay it out there for everyone to see. Please don't take this the wrong way...yes you could take Micorsoft Word and a point and shoot digital camera and make a book that looks like it has been put together by a bunch of fishermen and women and try to sell it. Or you can see who in the group has the skills and TIME needed for a project like this. Personally I am tapped out of time at the moment and with spring coming up, I would much rather be on the water or tying flies then setting in front of my computer doing what I do for a living. If the club wants to do it, then by all means, go right ahead. I just have to set this one out. Sorry. |
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Post by trent on Feb 11, 2009 16:40:14 GMT -5
Les, you are killing my buzz!!! :0 All good points though. Glad we have someone who knows the pitfalls and can steer us in the right direction if we decide we want to do something like this. Right now a bake sale is sounding a lot easier!!!  |
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Post by Tippecanoe Fly Fishers Admin on Feb 11, 2009 18:03:22 GMT -5
Sorry dude. I try not to let people walk off a cliff....or at least I feel better that I at least told them it is going to hurt when you hit the ground |
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