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Post by trent on Sept 2, 2009 22:17:22 GMT -5
We need to institute some progressive fly tax structures in this here club. Those with all the fly riches need to be taxed at an appropriately high rate so we can redistribute some of that fly wealth to those of us less fortunate. It's the American way.
I will be happy to serve as the chairman of the Redistribution Committee. My "administrative fees" won't amount to more than, say, 20% of the gross fly volume. It's a win-win, really. People like Dustin get to clear out some room in their boxes, those of us less skilled tiers get flies that don't look like the ol' "pigeon on a stick" pattern, and we all live happily ever after.
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Post by Slartybardfast on Sept 8, 2009 20:44:05 GMT -5
Just tied up a mess o poppers. I need to learn to tie something else.
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Post by reelteacher on Sept 8, 2009 21:15:23 GMT -5
Those are sweet! Bass, Pike, Bluegill, beware! Nice work my friend.
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Post by barryl on Sept 9, 2009 6:23:59 GMT -5
John just turn the bodies around and now your tying Sneaky Pete's.
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Post by trent on Sept 9, 2009 9:31:17 GMT -5
John:
what are you interested in trying to tie? I'm sure we could give you some suggestions and head you in the right direction.
I might suggest since you are now pretty good at tying a big fly like those poppers to try to tie something smaller and more delicate just to get a feel for both ends of the spectrum.
I think soft hackles are great to tie. They aren't super hard, you can make a bazillion different variations, they are effective, and look pretty cool too.
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Post by rstaight on Sept 9, 2009 10:59:22 GMT -5
Nice poppers John. I think Trent had a good suggestion with the soft hackles. They are simple to tie and are pretty darn effective.
Monday I sat down tied half a dozen Panfish Charlies. These replaced what I lost in Tennessee last week. Kept getting hung up on rocks. The rock bass love these things also.
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Post by Slartybardfast on Sept 9, 2009 12:26:14 GMT -5
Trent, maybe you could show me the soft hackles at the next fly tying? I'm doing research on tying a crayfish pattern right now.
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Post by trent on Sept 9, 2009 12:32:46 GMT -5
Do you have a specific crayfish pattern in mind or are you looking for one?
I can show you a soft hackle although I'm not sure I'm necessarily the guy you want teaching you.
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Post by Slartybardfast on Sept 9, 2009 14:49:26 GMT -5
A realistic crayfish pattern based off the pictures I got. Upturned hook so I can crawl it on the bottom.
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Post by trent on Sept 9, 2009 16:12:54 GMT -5
I came across a term I hadn't seen before recently referring to impressionistic flies. I'm not sure if that is a sport wide term or just used by this person, but it was basically splitting flies up into "traditional", i.e. does a fair job of imitating the actual look of a crayfish or fly or whatever and then "impressionistic" meaning the fish would have the impression that what it was eating was a crayfish, but to look at the fly next to a crayfish, the human observer would only see a resemblance in size, color, etc.
I think the person was making the point that the more realistic looking fly may not always be the one that catches the most fish.
What patterns have you found that you are thinking of tying or are you thinking about developing one from scratch?
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Post by Slartybardfast on Sept 9, 2009 18:42:20 GMT -5
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Post by barryl on Sept 10, 2009 7:50:10 GMT -5
John thats a good looking pattern, but one thing to remember is weight and where it's at. I have found crayfish flies with dumbbell eyes seem to give the best effect. They make the fly stand up on the bottom with a crayfish profile. They also get you down deep with the hook staying up. You want weight toward the tail.
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Post by trent on Sept 10, 2009 9:03:11 GMT -5
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Post by reelteacher on Sept 10, 2009 22:05:08 GMT -5
Clouser's Crayfish is not very good. I've tried it here several times, and haven't caught a fish on one. Maybe its better on the east coast.
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Post by barryl on Sept 10, 2009 23:37:33 GMT -5
John the near nuff fly is my favorite it may not look very realist on dry land but in the water it's a big hit with bass and carp as well as a catfish once. Also the pattern is very adaptable, stick to the frame of the fly and you can change what ever materials you have, as well as change color for the season. It's also very easy to tie, mistakes fish just as good as well tied flies. Just keep your hook sharp as any bottom pattern will dull quickly on rocks.
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