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Post by radioflyer on Mar 15, 2008 8:41:21 GMT -5
I tie a lot of my streamers using stainless hooks. Anyone here locally (Lafayette area) stock these? Or do I have to drive somewhere or mail order?
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Post by krebsie on Mar 29, 2008 8:23:04 GMT -5
radioflyer I use a lot of stainless hooks and the only good source I've found is Fly Masters in Indy. or off the web. Have talked to Sportsmans warehouse several times about this but have yet to see anything different. But if several of us were to let them know were interested things might change.
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Post by reelteacher on Jan 4, 2009 18:36:29 GMT -5
Krebsie, Can you tell us what are the most common saltwater, stainless hooks and sizes you use? For example, on your first cast fly, which hook do you most often use for that? I have a saltwater Cabela's magazine here, it has some pretty neat looking hooks listed, but I'm not familiar enough with them to know how big they are or what they are used for. Before I go buy a bunch I need some help and direction. Thanks!
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Post by rstaight on Jan 4, 2009 20:49:27 GMT -5
Radioflyer,
Dustin is correct. The only place I've seen stainless hooks is at Flymasters or on the web.
I have also talked to Sportsmans regarding natural Grizzly hackle on numerous occasions. I even pulled a book of the shelf and handed it to them. I stated that if they had the materials to tye most of what was in the book they would be in pretty good shape.
Same response as Krebsie.
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Post by trent on Jan 5, 2009 8:32:36 GMT -5
Speaking of the warehouse, they seem to be missing black and red thread in the 210 denier spools. I haven't mentioned it yet hoping they would get some stocked, but maybe they don't inventory the items that are out that frequently to replenish.
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Post by rstaight on Jan 5, 2009 13:46:17 GMT -5
Trent,
The 210 denier thread is a bit large for tying most of what is needed in the area. Instead go with the 140. On the very small sizes, 18 or 20 and smaller use a 70 denier.
The 210 denier is great for spinning deer hair. Because of it's thickness it won't break as easy. It may cut your deer hair though.
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Post by trent on Jan 5, 2009 14:34:09 GMT -5
Okay, can you give me a quicky education on how 210, 140, 70, etc. translates to 10/0, 8/0, 6/0 etc?
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Post by rstaight on Jan 5, 2009 16:37:48 GMT -5
Trent,
I may be wrong on this since I have usually purchased thread with the denier classification. If I am, someone please correct me.
I believe 140 denier and 3/0 thread is roughly the same. With the denier system the larger the number the larger the thread. With the */0 the larger the number the smaller.
The aught system is more of a manufacturers sizeing method. You can buy a 3/0 thread from one manufacturer and may be the same as anothers 4/0.
The denier system is an industry standard that manufacturers are starting to gravitate to. This means the one manufactures 140 is the same as anothers 140. Save some minor differences due to tolereancing, but the same.
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Post by krebsie on Jan 5, 2009 23:33:41 GMT -5
For those of you who don't know stainless hooks I'll give you what I know. I have found that the best hook is by far the Gamagatsu! Can't afford to use them. The one hook I've settled on and have converted Capt. Mihailoff and my fishing buddy in Fl., to is the Mustad Signature. The 2 models I use is the C70S D SS which is a 2x heavy standard length hook. I tie my poppers and the and Hay Stackers or Red Heads on this hook. The other hook I use is the Mustad Signatur C68S SS 2x heavy 2x short length. I use this hook for the First Cast flies and the Deceiver patterns. These hooks are pre sharpened from the factory and seem to hold an edge very well. A lot of the other brands you have to sharpen and that's just a pain to have to always be looking for a file when I'm fishing. I use these hooks in a #2, #1, 1/0, 2/0 and 3/0. For tarpon you will want to graduate to the Owner hooks $$$$$ though the Mustads will work very well on the big boys. Hope that helps a bit. Krebsie
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Post by reelteacher on Jan 26, 2009 21:04:21 GMT -5
Thanks Krebsie. Sorry, I just read this today. I'm slipping. This is great information!
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