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Post by rstaight on Dec 7, 2008 20:22:18 GMT -5
The tying session for January will be on the 8th, due to the 1st Thursday being New Years Day.
So January 8th at Sportsman's Warehouse.
We will be continuing with Deer Hair. Gary would like to cover stacking. Who knows, maybe he will show up with another widget.
Gary, thanks a ton for the December session. I now have deer hair all over my tying desk
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Post by rstaight on Dec 19, 2008 15:55:04 GMT -5
It was mentioned at the meeting last night, that Dustin has a large container to store materials in for the club.
If you have any extra that you don't know what to do with, bring em along.
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Post by reelteacher on Jan 1, 2009 14:21:16 GMT -5
I have a large rubbermade container with all the odds and ends I don't need or use anymore. This is the start of what I have called "Materials for members in need". As Rick mentioned, bring anything fly tying related you don't use or need anymore and those who see something they need or would like to have can take as they want. No charge, no obligations, no questions asked. I will bring this to every meeting and fly-tying event we have to reach as many members as possible. You may donate or take as you wish, no one is keeping score. I was talking with Krebsie about different issues and this idea sprouted out of that discussion. I can tell you that there are some very colorful pieces of deer hair and several hackle skins in there right now, with loads of other stuff. My wife made me clean...
Stacking deer hair is our primary focus, but we will also be showing a few other deer hair techniques that may be useful at certain times. If you are struggling with spinning the hair, don't give up. Stacking may be your answer to great looking poppers and divers!
See you Thursday!
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Post by krebsie on Jan 1, 2009 16:29:18 GMT -5
Just to add to the Materials for Members box I would also emphasize that it's not just for materials. If you have any extra tools, such as vices, bobbins basically anything one might use for fly tying that you would like to donate to the Box, new or used, this would be a great way to help people get started tying. Also should prove to be a great way to simply share materials with each other!! Now that's what I call a club function!!!!! Hope to see all you tiers at Sportsmans Thursday! Happy New Year Everyone Krebsie
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Post by trent on Jan 3, 2009 10:53:28 GMT -5
The Materials for Members idea is a good one.
Question on razor blades...at the December session, it was mentioned that you should have double edged blades for shaping deer hair. I hunted at Lowes and the only double edged ones I could find were billed as "carpet blades" or something like that. They are wider than a normal single blade you would put in a scraper or something like that. Are these what I need? I picked some up, but didn't know if they were going to work or not.
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Post by rstaight on Jan 3, 2009 11:39:34 GMT -5
Trent,
The razor blades that you need are the good old fashioned Wilkinson Sword blades for shaving. You can get these at the drugstore.
I have blades that I purchased at the wall paper store in Frankfort. They are single edge and are braced up on the opposite side. They aren't all that sharp and it is impossible to bend them.
Go the drugstore and buy the double edge.
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Post by reelteacher on Jan 3, 2009 15:07:02 GMT -5
Good tip Rick, thanks... I've been wondering myself where to get double edged razor blades. I bought two packages of Schick razor blades last summer from none other than the master of deer hair, Chris Helm, when he was in Zionsville visiting Wildcat Creek Outfitters. He ties unbelievable crazy realistic deer hair patterns. Anyway, I'm down to my last 2 blades. They work very well and stay sharp for a long time. I think I'll try Walgreens tomorrow and see if I can find them there. If so, I'll let you know. Single edged razor blade are just not sharp enough and I've cut myself on them several times trying to hack through deer hair and other materials. Best to keep those in a box cutter or carpet knife. Otherwise risk trouble, injury, or worse.
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Post by Tippecanoe Fly Fishers Admin on Jan 3, 2009 18:52:17 GMT -5
Hope you guys have a good time Thursday. I just relized I had to work.
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Post by krebsie on Jan 3, 2009 19:02:49 GMT -5
Les you need to take a day off! Come and play, pleeeeease! Gona miss ya dude! Again! Trent you can buy double edged razor blades at Wal Mart as cheep as anywhere, and no a carpet blade is not even close to being sharp enough neither is the single edge razor blade. Don't know why but they just aren't. Krebsie
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Post by reelteacher on Jan 4, 2009 18:14:54 GMT -5
I also found double edged razor blades at Walgreens today. They were the Walgreens brand, but they are stainless steel and their sharpness seems to be equal to the schick blades I have been using. They were $6.99 for 10 blades. That should be enough to last me a few months.
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Post by reelteacher on Jan 8, 2009 22:25:18 GMT -5
I would like to thank everyone who came out tonight to learn a little about stacking deer hair. It was great to see all of you there and I'm humbled that you were so willing to watch and listen as I tried to show you how I stack the hair. I apologize for totally screwing up cutting and shaping the bug, by cutting through the thread. Just remember that even someone who has tied countless deer hair flies, can really screw things up. I feel terrible! Don't worry if you mess up a few or more than a few, it's o.k., just keep trying. You now should be able to spin and stack and you can use combinations to increase the density of the deer hair on the hook. Remember, YOU CONTROL THE DEER HAIR! Don't let that deer hair control you. You show it who is boss. Just be careful not to cut your thread.
Many thanks to the photographers (Pat and others) who captured the night on my camera. The pics will be posted soon. A few are very interesting.
Thanks again Krebsie for our gift. Your generosity never ceases to amaze me. It is most appreciated!
Thanks Radio for the underground TFF brochure. All I can say is, my stomach still hurts from laughing. Very creative.
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Post by trent on Jan 9, 2009 8:21:06 GMT -5
Dustin,
is there a book out there that you would recommend on tying deer hair flies. It is one thing to make one with someone looking over your shoulder and another to try and get it done at home. Also, I'm guessing a resource would give some more info on how to get the various patterns throughout the hair, etc.
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Post by radioflyer on Jan 9, 2009 9:04:11 GMT -5
Trent, the undisputed champion of deer hair spinning and stacking is Chris Helm. Look for DVDs on the web by Chris. There's also a lot of nice web sources for knowledge like Fly Fishers Republic dot com.
Dustin, thanks again SO much for sharing your knowledge and supplies. You're a treasure. What a great night of learning! And Krebsie, thanks for your contributions to my fly tying desk. All my accessories will soon be Krebsinator Brand accessories. Your generosity is amazing!
Thanks to all who attended...great fellowship with some super guys (and gals)!
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Post by rstaight on Jan 9, 2009 9:43:19 GMT -5
Dustin,
Thank you for last nights instruction on stacking deer hair. I already have some off the wall ideas floating around in my wittle head.
Krebsie,
Thanks for lazy susan, I was thinking of getting something to put my hanked materials on. This should fit the bill nicely.
Radio,
The "underground" brocuhure was hilarious.
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Post by flyfishingpastor on Jan 9, 2009 11:11:15 GMT -5
Last night was fun, very much enjoyed the fellowship of the group. Dustin, I hope the pictures turned out. I specialize in the backs of people's heads - it's an art that I (modestly) am at the top of my game in...
Also, Krebsie, you rock, man! I had absolutely been thinking about something to put my "hanked materials" on...just as soon as I figured out what in the heck hanked materials are. I figured it out though (I ain't dumb - no matter what Trent tells you)! I didn't even have to google it!
Rick - man, I wanted to see you make a furled leader. Maybe in Feb?
Again, last night was fun - I enjoy this group a lot.
Pat
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