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Post by radioflyer on Apr 20, 2009 12:52:39 GMT -5
Hey Teach, when you get a chance, log on to Hook and Hackle and look for their Hook and Hackle Hi-Floater flylines. Those are the ones I had on the reels last weekend. They're priced at 30 dollars but I've gotten them for as little as 24 on sale periodically. I find them to be absolutely great flylines. Just FYI.
rf
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Post by trent on Apr 20, 2009 13:43:13 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, was Teach just looking for some extra lines?
If so, check out Sierra Trading Post, if you haven't already. They might have something that would fit the bill and they have had some pretty inexpensive lines out there from time to time.
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Post by reelteacher on Apr 20, 2009 19:38:21 GMT -5
Thanks RF and Trent. I've seen the one's on S.T.P. but I'm always leary of buying lines I've never casted before. Some of those cheap lines are absolutely worthless. Much better you fork over the dough for a good line, they cast easier and last longer. The H & H lines that RF had on a few of his rods on Sat. were great for the price. $30 is still cheaper than $49 -$69 variety available today. The Sharkskin is $99, and that's a very high price to pay for a line that makes so much noise going through the guides. Any of you own a sharkskin? Do you ever get used to the noise? What do you think about the line overall? Just wondering. Convince me...
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Post by krebsie on Apr 20, 2009 20:28:58 GMT -5
I have cast this line a couple times and it scares me. This line is very abrasive to the fingers and if you'd happen to hook up to a big fish that can make a long run, you just might loose a finger or two. I have a problem with finger cuts with the S.A. Tropic line that I'm using now, and it's slick and smooth. The noise is, well, it's just noise, but for me it take away from the, pristineness, if that's a word, of the cast. Kind of video games the whole experience for me. As you can probably tell I'm not a fan of this line and probably will never be! But that's just my opinion and not facts because I've never fished it!! Anybody else got an opinion?
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Post by flyfishingpastor on Apr 20, 2009 20:35:05 GMT -5
Dustin; I have a couple of the H & H "Hy-Floaters." I like them. Many who claim to know say they are Cortland 444 Peach made for H & H. I know they do float high on the water and have low recoil even on cold water - and they're $25 cheaper. As for the Sharkskin, I don't own one, but have cast them and by the end of the day, I was aware of the buzz but not annoyed by it anymore - but we're each different. I really enjoyed casting the line, it handled well, I'd estimate it added 20% in distance without suffering a loss of control/accuracy. If I didn't fish mostly with bamboo, I'd probably get one (or two). I liked it a lot. Pat
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Post by barryl on Apr 21, 2009 10:52:52 GMT -5
I know they are a little pricey but I have found the SA Mastery series to cast smooth, stay clean longer, and out last most cheaper fly line. I have a 6wt line that is nearly 10 years old I use a lot that is all most like brand new. And because of the way you clean them (micro fiber pad) the clean up is half the time of regular lines. Plus you never need (or are supposed to use) line dressing. I have found that over time this line proves to be a better value than many cheaper ones. Oh and I haven't noticed any noise unless it's being pulled out fast by a nice fish. But I don't fault the line for that.
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Post by reelteacher on Apr 21, 2009 16:41:55 GMT -5
Ah yes, SA does make a great product. I love the GPX taper. That line is superior to most any other line I've tried. I had some for a 6wt. and absolutely loved it. It is smooth, easy to cast and could turn over any large fly I owned. That line lasted about 4 years, and I finally retired it. It was cracking all over and the end began to sink. But, that line saw the water nearly everyday in the summer months. I think I just talked myself into buying another one.
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Post by phishinincident on Apr 21, 2009 19:37:16 GMT -5
Try and fish a Sharskin all day, you will never want to own one, i can see where they are coming from with the dimples but it will tear your hands to pieces after fishing them for any extended period of time.
I too am an SA advocate, they make the best line for the money, Rio also makes a great product. I just dont think that Courtland has the technology, for the initial slickness, as do the other companies.
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Post by radioflyer on Apr 21, 2009 20:37:20 GMT -5
Teach, I'm with you on the GPX. I love them and they're my fave line though they recently added the welded loop and shot up the price. That's my line of choice and I find most on Ebay here and there for less. I have a hard time spending 70 on a flyline. The best line I've ever owned though was a 444SL in a 7wt. Not sure they even make it anymore. Only have one but love it to this day. Hear lots of good things about Rio but have never fished one. Had horrible experiences with their leaders though for some reason...then again I got them on sale...no wonder. I use the HH lines for the Scout/teaching lines but I also use them for my medium action rods. Whether they're really 444 peach's is just rumor and I have no idea really. The 444peach has had a long long reputation for being a great all-purpose line. SA, Cortland...I've had luck with both and owned dogs by both. Would like to try out a Rio sometime...
your mileage may vary...
rf
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Post by barryl on Apr 22, 2009 9:09:13 GMT -5
I have a Rio multi tip I don't suggest it. I bought it for a 9wt Scott rod that at that time I was trying to make it a multi purpose rod (steelhead,salt,etc.). The main section cast OK but by the time you put one of the head pieces on it proves to be a lot of line in front of the shooting section. It was also very expensive over $100.00. If you do go with the SA buy the cleaning cloth designed for it this seems to greatly extend the life of the line.
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Post by radioflyer on Apr 22, 2009 10:09:41 GMT -5
I'm thinking about something like the Rio Gold. Anyone here try that? Is it true to weight? Would the 7wt Rio Gold be a real 7wt instead of a 7 and 1/2 like the Grande or GPX?
Just wonderin...
rf
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Post by rstaight on Apr 22, 2009 10:35:43 GMT -5
I like the RIO Clouser line. If have that on my 9wt Avid and on the 8wt that I built. I believe you can get it down to a 6wt and turns your rod into a cannon.
If you are wanting an inexpensive line for trout and panfish, the Orvis Clearwater line is great. I have this on my 5wt and I can't complain one bit. It has a loop to loop connection and is only $29.
I have routinely used this line in bright sun, clearwater conditions in Wisconsion where 40ft cast are the norm to keep from spoking fish and it has performed flawlessly.
Back to Rio, Barry, depending on how long you have had the multi tip, the floating line used when this product was introduced was a dog. It was a standard WF line and just didn't work well.
About 4 or 5 years ago they changed the floating line to the Clouser line and it works much better.
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Post by barryl on Apr 22, 2009 12:08:11 GMT -5
Glad to here they improved it and yes it's about 8 or nine years old. Thanks for the update hate to say anything bad about a company.
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Post by barryl on Apr 22, 2009 12:17:20 GMT -5
Glad to here they improved it and yes it's about 8 or nine years old. Thanks for the update hate to say anything bad about a company. It has been my private conviction that any man who pits his intelligence against a fish and loses has it coming.-John Steinbeck
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Post by flyfishingpastor on Apr 22, 2009 12:43:20 GMT -5
Radio;
I like the Rio Gold on bamboo rods. Haven't tried it on graphite though.
Pat
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